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Mass expulsion of high-ranking members in Shincheonji Korea
(Main post by coinisft – EX-Shincheonji Member)
Title: Mass expulsion of high-ranking members in Shincheonji Korea
Details:
Name : (redacted)
Affiliation : Thaddeus Tribe HQ
Reason for expulsion : Unauthorized use of church funds for private gain.
Name : Noh Hong-sam(former Thaddeus tribe leader)
Affiliation : Thaddeus Tribe HQ
Reason for expulsion : He failed to provide adequate oversight during his tenure as tribe leader responsible for protecting church property.
Name : Choi Jung-min(former Matthew tribe leader)
Affiliation : Matthew Tribe HQ
Reason for expulsion : Because of his greed, he used church funds for private interests without authorization, causing harm to members and the church.
Name : (redacted)
Affiliation : Thaddeus Tribe New Delhi church
Reason for expulsion : As a DGSN who was supposed to protect the church and its property, he or she engaged in prohibited financial transactions.
Name : (redacted)
Affiliation : Thaddeus Tribe HQ
Reason for expulsion : While serving as Director of Finance (BJN), he violated the law and order of SCJ for personal interest and used his personal bank account to harm the church and its members.
Name : (redacted)
Affiliation : Thaddeus Tribe HQ
Reason for expulsion : While serving as Director of Finance (BJN), he violated the law and order of SCJ for personal interest and used his personal bank account to harm the church and its members.
Comments Thread
datnewanimal:
Thaddeus Tribe got hit really hard in this purge. How high were they ranked exactly in terms of tribe membership numbers? They were certainly not in the top tier like Simon or Peter Tribe. I also look forward to whoever will come to replace the vacant JPJN positions for Thaddeus and Matthew.
RoleNo1887:
Hi datnewanimal, I noticed that you posted something similar about the change in tribe leaders months ago. Did they recently announce these changes officially?
↳ (Link provided in the original post)
datnewanimal:
Hello, I have no particular reason to distrust the second-hand sources that I cited, but I can send you a DM for further discussion. As a general rule, there is usually no communication between the tribes, and to my knowledge, they did not officially release a communique regarding the situation recently. I made the post back then to update the JPJN situation since I noticed the old list of tribe leaders wasn’t getting updated.
RoleNo1887:
We heard these announcements during a recent Zoom service. Did these changes happen a few months ago before they were formally announced during the Sunday service? If so, how did you know about them?
datnewanimal:
I sent you a DM.
Cultastic:
The fall is near.
Otherwise-Water1721 (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Wow, thank you for sharing. I wonder how much of the detail is shared by the church with its members and what actually happened… For the most part, church funds are always exploited by the leaders. I wonder what went on behind the scenes for all these leaders—even for an overseas church leader—to be expelled like this.
Puzzleheaded_Cup_926:
When I was in Korea, I heard about financial corruption stories like that all the time. It seems LMH is too old and weak to take care of his cult. Now that people are starting to realize he’s senile and will soon die, they are splitting the cake among themselves without hesitation.
12345cult (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Definitely true. They are aware of the cult and taking advantage of the situation to extract money as compensation for the losses incurred by members before the collapse.
LopsidedAdvisor6945:
The highest-ranking members—those teaching others how to be kingdom and priest—do not even believe or practice LMH’s doctrine. How is a member supposed to continue believing when they are being robbed? Teachers don’t live what they preach, yet they expect members to give and evangelize to keep feeding their greed. So sad.
Who-Anonymous (EX-Shincheonji Member):
↳ Hi u/LopsidedAdvisor6945, please DM me when you see this. Thanks 🙂 Need insights.
Critical-strike9999 (Current SCJ Member):
The time is near. Let us repent for our sins.
Timely-Effort-5499:
Including your idol LMH? 🤣
Proverbs-3-5:
This seriously feels so much like North Korea’s means of propaganda—it’s eerie.
SeekingTruth2023 (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Thank you for sharing. It’s amazing that there is so much criminal energy in the supposed “Kingdom of Heaven.” But yes, it’s not really a surprise when the fraud starts with the leader himself.
QuestionsAboutSCJ (Moderator):
Another day, another set of expulsions.
coinisft (OP, EX-Shincheonji Member):
Just another day at SCJ.
pottybiden:
They’re all corrupt—no surprise—starting from Lee Man Hee. But I guess he’s immune because he’s their savior. Do we believe they got fired for committing these acts or probably just for opposing LMH?
coinisft (OP, EX-Shincheonji Member):
I don’t know the whole story, though. It’s not uncommon for high-ranking members to steal from church funds or engage in prohibited financial transactions. It’s also common for leaders to be involved in MLM schemes or to borrow money and not pay it back. However, LMH is immune no matter what he does, while other higher-ups are expelled for these actions the moment they irritate him. The organization is run according to his mood rather than by any heavenly law and order.
MoaloGracia2:
It’s probably to oppose LMH. Financial fraud is just a cover-up.
thetruthofJC01:
Exactly, most of the time that’s how it is. And as usual, we’ll only know what they want us to know!
datnewanimal:
Thaddeus Tribe got hit really hard in this purge. How high were they ranked exactly in terms of tribe membership numbers? They were certainly not in the top tier like Simon or Peter Tribe. I also look forward to whoever will come to replace the vacant JPJN positions for Thaddeus and Matthew.
RoleNo1887:
Hi datnewanimal, I noticed that you posted something similar about the change in tribe leaders months ago. Did they recently announce these changes officially?
↳ (Link provided in the original post)
datnewanimal:
Hello, I have no particular reason to distrust the second-hand sources that I cited, but I can send you a DM for further discussion. As a general rule, there is usually no communication between the tribes, and to my knowledge, they did not officially release a communique regarding the situation recently. I made the post back then to update the JPJN situation since I noticed the old list of tribe leaders wasn’t getting updated.
RoleNo1887:
We heard these announcements during a recent Zoom service. Did these changes happen a few months ago—before they were formally announced during the Sunday service? If so, how did you know about them?
datnewanimal:
I sent you a DM.
Cultastic:
The fall is near.
Otherwise-Water1721 (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Wow, thank you for sharing. I wonder how much detail the church actually shares with its members versus what really happened… For the most part, church funds are always exploited by the leaders. I wonder what went on behind the scenes for these leaders—even for an overseas church leader—to be expelled like this.
Puzzleheaded_Cup_926:
When I was in Korea, I heard about financial corruption stories like this all the time. It seems LMH is too old and weak to take care of his cult. Now that people are starting to realize he’s senile and will soon die, they are splitting the cake among themselves without hesitation.
12345cult (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Definitely true. They are aware of the cult and take advantage of the situation to extract money as compensation for the losses incurred by members before the collapse.
LopsidedAdvisor6945:
The highest-ranking members—those teaching others how to be kingdom and priest—do not even believe or practice LMH’s doctrine. How is a member supposed to continue believing when they are being robbed? Teachers don’t live what they preach, yet they expect members to give and evangelize to keep feeding their greed. So sad.
Who-Anonymous (EX-Shincheonji Member):
↳ Hi u/LopsidedAdvisor6945, please DM me when you see this. Thanks 🙂 Need insights.
Critical-strike9999 (Current SCJ Member):
The time is near. Let us repent for our sins.
Timely-Effort-5499:
Including your idol LMH? 🤣
Proverbs-3-5:
This seriously feels so much like North Korea’s means of propaganda—it’s eerie.
SeekingTruth2023 (EX-Shincheonji Member):
Thank you for sharing. It’s amazing that there is so much criminal energy in the supposed “Kingdom of Heaven.” But yes, it’s not really a surprise when the fraud starts with the leader himself.
QuestionsAboutSCJ (Moderator):
Another day, another set of expulsions.
coinisft (OP, EX-Shincheonji Member):
Just another day at SCJ.
pottybiden:
They’re all corrupt—no surprise—starting from Lee Man Hee. But I guess he’s immune because he’s their savior. Do we believe they got fired for committing these acts or probably just for opposing LMH?
coinisft (OP, EX-Shincheonji Member):
I don’t know the whole story, though. It’s not uncommon for high-ranking members to steal from church funds or engage in prohibited financial transactions. It’s also common for leaders to be involved in MLM schemes or to borrow money and not pay it back. However, LMH is immune no matter what he does, while other higher-ups are expelled for these actions the moment they irritate him. The organization is run according to his mood rather than by any heavenly law and order.
MoaloGracia2:
It’s probably to oppose LMH. Financial fraud is just a cover-up.
thetruthofJC01:
Exactly, most of the time that’s how it is. And as usual, we’ll only know what they want us to know!