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Title: Shincheonji and Gyeogam Yurok (Nam Sa-go Prophecy) – Teaching/Doctrine
OP: coinisft (EX-Shincheonji Member)
- What kind of book is The Gyeogam yurok?
The Gyeogam Yurok is said to be a prophetic book written by the Joseon Dynasty prophet Nam Sago (estimated to have lived from 1509 to 1571), who had an encounter with a spiritual being.
There is a general consensus among Korean historians that the book is not worth researching.
The original does not exist and was donated by a member of the Olivetree Movement.
Here is a brief summary of why many people are of the opinion that this book is a forgery.
- In the prophecy, which is believed to have been written between 1509 and 1571, there are many Chinese characters that are only 100 to 200 years old, such as atom(原子).
- (The Bible was first introduced to Korea in the early 19th century.) Some parts of the book were copied from the Chinese Bible.
- No originals.
- There are too many references to specific religious figures (Olivetree movement) and leaders.
- Why is it that most Korean cults are obsessed with Gyeogam Yurok?
- They believe that Gyeogam Yurok successfully predicted much of Korean history, including the Japanese invasion of Korea, the Korean War, the 5.16 military coup, and who would win the Korean presidential election.
- Jeong Do-Ryeong; the messiah in Gyeogam Yurok (鄭道令 or正道令) in the book appears in Korea.
- Their belief is that all the prophetic books in the world are fulfilled through their leader.
- It’s all open to interpretation through 破字or測字paja (a kind of play on words in Chinese characters), which means it depends on the situation and the person. It was used to justify the leader’s affairs, illegitimate children, etc. in some Korean cults.
Here’s an example 十八卜術誕生 三聖水源三人之水 羊一口又八
十+八+卜=朴(Korean last name Park, can be interpreted as Park Tae-sun, leader of the Olivetree Movement.) or 朴=木(tree)+人(human)= (Parable) saint or shepherd(Gyeogam yurok also has its parable)

3) Was it wrong for Lee Man-hee and Shinchoenji to keep using Gyeogam Yurok? (Please allow for regional and time-specific differences, as the teaching of the Shincheonji is constantly changing)
- My experience: When I was a student at the center, we studied Rev 4. In Rev 4:3 there is jasper, carnelian, emerald. When the instructor was teaching this part, he copied a part of the Gyeogam Yurok and gave it to the students. It said that Jeong-do-ryeong wore a crown inlaid with jasper and carnelian. Instructor quoted the Romans and said that all the prophecies would be fulfilled through the LMH. At the moment it seems to teach about the jasper and carnelian as passion, enthusiasm. And leaders, including the tribal leader, forced members to memorize certain phrases from the Gyeogam Yurok.
- It is very unbiblical for LMH to keep quoting the Gyeogam Yurok.
- The Gyeogam Yurok is a book of prophecy based on the Eastern theory of Yin and Yang and Feng Shui. Why does SCJ need it?
- Religious confusion for members. Since the book itself is of questionable reliability, the fact that they keep quoting it is also confusing to members. In fact, Korean members have complained about this
- Is LMH’s official quoting of the Gyeogam Yurok in services a revelation from the Lord? Or is he copying the various cult leaders he had served?
- If he wants to appear authoritative to his members, he must explain doctrinal changes and contradictions over the decades, not refer to obscure Korean prophetic books.
Comment by datnewanimal:
“This ‘paja’ warping of Chinese characters mentioned in the post reminds me of a very ‘Protestant’ tendency my seniors used to have. Occasionally, they would invent completely fictional etymologies for Chinese words—for example, for the character meaning ‘boat’—and use it to illustrate the story of Noah’s family (using a radical for the ark and another character for the eight people of Noah’s family), even though they were merely combining semantic and phonetic components. This utter circus they play with language just to justify their feeble faith is probably not the fullest extent of Shincheonji’s misdeeds, sadly.”
↳ Reply by RoleNo1887:
“Exactly—I had the same experience with the equation for ‘boat’ (船 = 舟 + 㕣)!”
Comment by Fit-Housing9499:
“Yes, there were times when LMH constantly talked about Nam Sa-go. He claimed that Nam Sa-go prophesied the coming of light (in this case, LMH) and always preached about it. I asked myself, what does this guy have to do with the Bible? When I was at SCJ, I never understood LMH’s fascination with Nam Sa-go. Now that I’ve left, I don’t even want to know him because anything that is not in the Bible is anti-biblical.”
Comment by Alarming-Willow-6948:
“Hello, I would like to talk to you about this, if it’s possible.”