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Part 12: Judgments. What Shincheonji Gets Wrong, and What You Need to Know
u/Financial-Document88
It’s honestly crazy how Shincheonji can twist and ignore so much of what the Bible says about judgment. They’ve conveniently left out huge parts of Scripture that explain the various judgments everyone is going to face. They’ve crafted this elaborate system of control and deceit, but they leave out vital truths that show just how much they’re misrepresenting the gospel. Let’s break it down—starting with the Great White Throne Judgment, which they completely overlook.
First, let’s address the Great White Throne Judgment. This is where the final, irreversible judgment for the unsaved takes place. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear picture:
“Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.”
So, here’s the deal. People who are not saved—who don’t have their names written in the Book of Life—will face this terrifying judgment. Their sins will be judged, and they will be cast into the lake of fire. Where does Shincheonji address this? They don’t. They avoid it because it doesn’t fit into their false narrative of salvation through following their leader, Lee Man-hee. This is a stark reality in Scripture that cannot be ignored, but Shincheonji prefers to sidestep it because it exposes their deception.
Then there’s the Bema Seat Judgment, which is for believers, and it’s a whole different thing. This judgment isn’t about sin or punishment—that was already taken care of by Jesus on the cross. It’s about the works we’ve done for Christ while we’ve been alive. 2 Corinthians 5:10 says:
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
This is the Bema Seat, a judgment of rewards for believers, based on the things we’ve done with the salvation we’ve received. It’s not about whether we’re saved or not—that’s already settled. This is about how faithful we’ve been. 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 gives us a picture of what this judgment looks like:
“If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.”
This judgment is about works—works that are pleasing to God and last. Shincheonji ignores this entirely, probably because they want to keep you focused on obedience to their man-made system rather than on true, lasting faithfulness to Christ.
But it doesn’t stop there. There’s more. The Judgment of the Nations is another key event that Shincheonji either doesn’t address or misrepresents. This judgment happens at the end of the age and is about how nations have treated God’s people, the followers of Christ. Matthew 25:31-46 talks about this:
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.”
In this judgment, Jesus separates the righteous (the “sheep”) from the wicked (the “goats”) based on how they treated Christ’s followers. Those who are righteous are invited into His eternal kingdom, while those who rejected His people are condemned.
But Shincheonji doesn’t emphasize this judgment because it doesn’t fit their doctrine of exclusivity. They want you to believe that salvation is about being part of their select group, and it’s not about how you treat fellow believers or the message of the gospel. They want to control the narrative, but the truth is clear: nations will be judged by their treatment of believers, and God is keeping track.
Now, let’s talk about the Judgment of Angels, which is another thing that is conveniently ignored. The Bible makes it clear that angels will be judged for their rebellion and actions, just like humans will be judged. Jude 1:6 puts it this way:
“And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.”
This is a reminder that even angels who rebelled are not exempt from judgment. Yet Shincheonji doesn’t mention this. Why? Because it goes against their narrative of placing their leader, Lee Man-hee, as someone of ultimate authority—someone above everyone, including angels. But the Bible is clear: there will be a day of judgment for angels, just like there is for humans. No one escapes God’s judgment.
Shincheonji selectively ignores the Bible’s teachings about the different judgments because they don’t fit the “story” they’re selling. They want you to believe that being in their group is the only thing that matters and that Lee Man-hee is the key to your salvation. But when you really look at Scripture, you see that there are different judgments for different people, and none of them fit their false narrative. Whether it’s the judgment of unbelievers at the Great White Throne, the judgment of believers at the Bema Seat, the judgment of nations or angels, or the tribulation, they’re all laid out clearly in the Bible.
Shincheonji ignores these teachings because they don’t want you to know the truth. They want you to focus on their false doctrine. But truth and evidence always prevail. The Bible is clear, and it’s time for people to wake up to what’s really coming. Don’t let them keep you in the dark about these vital truths.
Comments Section
u/Aggravating_Good1367
SCJ teach that everyone not in their church registry (which they believe is the book of life in heaven which they think they have authority over) is going to hell fire. That’s what they teach ultimately. And they refer to the judgment of outsiders also as outsiders being condemned that persecuted them, they think God has their back and will take revenge for them. They also teach that if you don’t evangelize or turn up to wed and sun service then you go to hell too, a bit like the JW. That’s a big reason why people run to evangelize, but also they are told if people are not part of their group exclusively then they go to hell. Without reading or verifying this in scripture they actually believe it and follow. (well some anyway).
SCJ folks are deprived of learning how to actually read scripture, they are rather conditioned to believe the narrative they are given and not doubt it. They can read the bible for an hour and then come out saying, mmmm God makes it so clear, but the truth in their heart is nothing is clear, they are scraping for understanding and meaning (As I have witnessed in countless cell meetings) and there are many contradictions that they have learnt to shut up.
When a member has doubts, they give them more duties to preoccupy them and so stop them having time to think. And then they monitor them closely.
It’s all demonic, but as the bible says, nothing can separate us from the love of God, I am confident He will take His people out of all the cults of idolatry and places like it. Even from the hands of demons, He will deliver His people (Rom 8:31-39). He will expose everything.
↳ u/Financial-Document88
Exactly. SCJ have made judgment basic when judgment day has SO much more parts than the simplified doctrine SCJ teaches. It is indeed – ‘if you are not part of church, hell it is’. That is indeed, ultimately, how they lay it out. They ignore the FULL picture and Biblical scriptures of Final Judgment, for the obvious reasons that it will conflict with their false doctrine.
The worst heresy is also them believing they have the authority over the Book Of Life. All scholars have pointed out (and you don’t even have to be in this field) to realize no human but God is in charge of the Book of Life. SCJ and many cults, are ‘full of assumptions’ to force a narrative, in the field of academia, we don’t do assumptions but reference evidence.
u/SeekingTruth2023
EX-Shincheonji Member
Hm, if I remember correctly, while I was in SCJ, I learned about all the judgements you mentioned here… I never heard the term Bema Seat Judgement though.
↳ u/Financial-Document88
Not really…
As far as learning the judgements mentioned, they don’t really teach these Judgment lessons, Biblically accurately and out of context, especially when it comes to changing their prophecies like in the 80s, when they shifted the doctrine of Jesus’ Second Coming to not be physical and now ‘spiritual’. Lee Man Hee claimed that Jesus had already spiritually returned, but in a hidden form (cause failed prophecy). This belief became central to Shincheonji’s identity, and it’s when Lee Man-hee himself took on the role of the “Promised Pastor”, claiming that he was the one chosen to fulfill the second coming role on behalf of Jesus. Claiming verses like Revelation 1:7 and Revelation 19:11-16 to be ‘symbolic’ and not ‘literal’. When it’s very clear in Matthew 24:30-31: “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” It will be a public and universal event also.
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Acts 1:9-11: “After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. ‘Men of Galilee,’ they said, ‘why do do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.’”
For Angelic judgments for example, SCJ does not directly highlight the concept of humans judging angels in their specific doctrines or teachings. That’s because Shincheonji’s eschatology focus is primarily on the judgment of humanity, particularly those who reject the “Promised Pastor” (Lee Man-hee) or fail to follow the correct interpretation of the Bible as Shincheonji teaches. Angels just seem to play ‘a role’ during judgment as ‘just executing God’s plan’. The judgment teachings always largely revolves around the separation between true believers (those who accept Lee Man-hee’s teachings) and false churches or unbelievers.
They don’t know the difference and leave out the important details of Great White Throne judgement and Lambs Throne/Bema Seat judgment. Their focus is on the current spiritual judgment of those who accept or reject the true teachings and the salvation of Lee Man-hee’s guidance. For Shincheonji, the final judgment is a spiritual reality taking place now, rather than a future event in which individuals are judged after death. This is why traditional concepts of the Great White Throne or the Bema Seat Judgment are not emphasized in their doctrine.
I have a bunch of old notes from studies back in the day of how SCJ emphasizes on ‘judging false churches’ more also, on top of books you can probably buy that were from the 90s you can find these as direct sources which SCJ rejects most now due to how the theology of SCJ keeps evolving when more of their prophecies failed throughout the years.